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Crowning of the King by ReptileCynrik Crowning of the King by ReptileCynrik
Wow... after almost 2 weeks of work, my new picture (you've seen a cutout of it showing Reptile) is finally done! And for a long time, I am really satisfied again! :D

This scene took place in the temple of castle Riverstone. The temple has been build exclusivly for such events... like crownings, royal meetings etc. Even Reptile was knighted in these holy halls!

The characters from left to the right:
Caleb Traevoring (Lord of Atreus), Reptile Cynrik (King of Chron), Kyle Primor (new regent of Aktes), Rashid Alkahr (Archbishop of Tyros), a mysterious man in dark robes, a royal guard (soldier of Aktes)!

Media used:
Photoshop 7.0 and MEDION tablet

Working Time:
60 hours!

TRIVIA:

+ The background drawing of the temple is NO photo!! I have used my experience from my studies of architecture and a few sketches of Roman temple architecture.

+ My brother ~Curanus has designed the lord on the left side and the Aktesian guard on the right side.

+ All uniforms and armor have been inspired from original military uniforms.

+ I've used Kyle's head from an older picture.

+ The crowning scene and the guy in the light robes are inspired by a classical painting called "Napoleon I und Kroenung Kaiserin Josephine". You can see Napoleon holding the crown himself. The guy in light robes, who's crowning Kyle, is actually Napoleon himself... at least his version from the painting.

+ The guard's halberd is drawn after a real weapon (I own one).

+ The pose of the guard is inspired by a painting of a soldier done by Albrecht Dürer! This way, I want to hail one of the best artists, who has ever lived... Dürer is one of my favorite artists.


Some people already mentioned it... here's still many flaws on the characters AND the perspective of the background. But I didn't want to draw an usual "forest or wood" background and tried something real hard this time.
Yes, I still have much to learn! But there is no learning without practise or help!

All characters and art © *ReptileCynrik
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:iconstarsingularity:
Starsingularity Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2009
lol. He might leave claw-marks on the nice floor.
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2009
Oh, nay... Reptile walks very delicately here! :D He takes good care. ;)
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FengatorMx6 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2009  Student General Artist
If I was there, I think the only thing I would be looking at is the reptile! lol
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2009
XD :D Hehehe...
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FengatorMx6 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2009  Student General Artist
Yeah, kinda stands out. X'D
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TheShadowhisperer Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
GAH! New image? Lots of characters I do not recognize? Shifting level of detail between posted image?! REPTILE IS BACK BABY!!!:boogie:
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2009
Well, he's not the only one. :D Thanks very much for the comment.
Ow, and I'm working on a new picture about him and Kyle right now! ;)
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redwallfanforever Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Caleb on the left looks kinda like the famous artist from the episode Percy and the Oil Painting!
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Er... sorry, I don't know about this. :) I had no reference for this guy. ;) This was one of the few characters I did completely alone.
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redwallfanforever Featured By Owner May 7, 2009
Oh you don't need to be sorry. That's great that Caleb was done by you, he just sort of look like someone I've seen in a cartoon.

Btw what was that thing that you didn't know about?
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner May 7, 2009
Er... I didn't know about quite a few things about this picture. :D
I still don't know who that cloaked guy could be. Maybe, some secret order? ;) I want to leave some secrets untold here... so that people can make up their own ideas.
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FrescaFrostbringer Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
60 stunden :faint:

aber gelohnt hat es sich allemal, das sieht klasse aus D: *begeistert mit blicken drauf rumfahr*
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
:) Danke ^..^
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Fel-Grand Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
actually, after read herisheft's comment/critique on the picture, I "scanned"
the picture and realised that that stand or whatsoever the people are standing on seems like another platform that you paste on the picture, looks unrealistic :dead:
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
Yeah, I agree. I never said, she's wrong! :D Sometimes, you see it when printing it and holding it in your hands....
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Curanus Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009  Hobbyist Artist
Sehe gerade auch so ein paar komische Dinge... z.B. die Helebarde oder Kyles Stiefel. Das sieht seltsam aus.
Bin aber gespannt was Joana zu sagen hat. Das teilst du mir doch mit, oder?

Ach, ja ich bin in der Freundesliste von diesem mage-starez. Keine Ahnung warum...
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
Nun, klar... "perfekt" ist das lange nicht. Aber es ist halt mal was "anderes"! :D
Das Ergebnis ist immer ein wenig anders, als was man im Kopf hat, aber ich bin dennoch zufrieden. :)
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Herisheft Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate to say it, specially after your long comment on my last pic... I don't really like this picture, and there are many reasons for it :( I don't know if you want me to put a critique on it over here, or if you prefer to get it by note..or if you ever want to hear it.
I appreciate the amount of work you putted in it, but that's it actually. I am sorry.
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
And by the way... ALL critique is welcome, for I did not draw this picture to "show you all a perfect super scene which has no flaws"! ;)
THIS is the first digital project of it's kind... I mean, such scene, background, character composition... I tried to work with the skills I have with Photoshop.
Sure, it can be done better. Please tell me, so I can learn!
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
Hey, it's okay if you write it down here. I don't want to appear like someone, who does not listen to critique!!

There're 2 things I can already say myself:
The background perspective is indeed a little off... looks skewed. I wanted to draw a temple room, which has 5 corners and a long path in the middle of it. BUT I agree, it's still not really working here.

And the second thing: I admit, that the characters don't always "harmonize" with the background. In some places, it looks like 2 pictures put together. Though, there are some parts, where it really fits (especially if you take the light sources).
But yes... it is far away from being "PERFECT"! And I did not call it perfect. It was something ELSE...

Yes, please write down what you can see more.
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Herisheft Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
and last thing... decide on the light source :D becosue what it is here so far it a default light. Actually you play better with light an d shadow on your traditional pictures. sure Cg is easier and less stresfull but that shouldn't make you go lazy and brainless :D


Geez! i feel weird by telling such stuff to an art teacher :D
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
One last thing... you know what?
The difference between a traditional and digital work (at least to me):
If I've a traditional paper sheet laying in front of me on my table, I can see the whole picture! If I've a digital artwork, it's on the screen (different perspective) and I've to scroll through it, to soo it all.
I guess, I'm still "better" with my "real paper sheet"... because I have the complete picture in front of me... and the complete "supervision".
But I will carry on! ;)
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
It's alright, that you've told me. And we all know: I'm far away from being "perfect", either. ;) You just have more experience in such artworks and... that's why I value your comment.
I may be an art teacher, but that does not has to mean that I'm "good" in all kind of art or illustrations. I do my best, yes.
The light source... well, we have an "open temple". Light comes from everywhere. BUT you are right... if I look at my "Lost and Found" picture, it has WAY better lighting (night, moon and just one torch)!

It's funny... all your critique was clear to me BEFORE reading! :D I've pointed out the temple room AND the relation of the characters, as well. And I admit the mistakes there.

Yes, like I've written before... I admit the points about the room. And I still need to work on perspektive and most of all: architecture. I can't always hide in "jungles" and woods. :D That's why I've tried such room... which is not supposed to be very huge, but still like a grand hall. Maybe, I was too focused on the coloums, that I forgot the room "as a whole".
The suggestion about Reptile and the Lord is very good... yeah, I should've "darkened" them (or completely left them), so that the most important focus is on Kyle. I see it, yes...

You said "some gathering of the characters pasted together from few diffrent stories that are completely not related"... well, I have to deny the point about "not related" characters. ALL characters are related, indeed. The problem is, people can't tell from THIS one picture... they'd have to read all my stories, which I can't expect of them!!! :D
So, I still agree that... it's looking like "many pictures set together as one". :(

Weird thing is, that I did draw all characters in this picture at the same time. I did NOT draw them independently! BUT maybe, it's just this flat view angle.... maybe, I should have not used this "profile shot", right? This could've done better, yeah.

I don't reject your critique and I don't argue or deny it, either. I agree to many points you've pointed out and I'm happy you told me.
After all.... it really helps me in the future!
Thank you! I'll do better. I'll keep up. :hug:
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Herisheft Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Patrick hun, if the temple is so bright everywhere, then why the walls are covered in drkness? hmmm...

i believe, and i know taht they are related in the story, but they are not related on the picture... just take a good look. Like i told you, they look like each of them was made separetly and then pasted all together.they look like, you cutted them out from random comic panels and then putted them together. That's what i meant
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
I understood what you meant: Independently drawn figures - added together to one bigger picture!
Yes, I admit that it appears that way. :(
Though I have NOT drawn them independently, I agree that it LOOKS (!) that way.
Next time, I'll do better with composing the figures to create a relation between them!
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Herisheft Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Well okies.
Besides of perspective which looks kinda of becouse: wall appears to be going somewhere into space while floor stays totaly horizotal...you know what i mean? It dosen't go deep into the picture, it should be a bit curved as a window suggests. but i can see where it all goes, this wall is not important and we shouldn't actually pay attention to it, this is just a filler, but unfortunetlly it does turn attention. Perspective again, floor looks short. We don't know how long is the distance between characters and the window which appears to be far, but characters positions and that perspective defying floor tell us the opposite. so where is it? far or close? Also check the edge of the window and the column heads, i guess taht each of tehm plays it's own perspective. Look also below feets of the guard, on the edge of the step and then go lower and check the matching edge, can you see it? another perspective fooler. I know what you wanted to do, but taking under attention the fact that this step is so close to us, we wouldn't see that perspective effect so well. see it? and from this place it fools the floor.Go from that point more to the left and whole perspective will collapse. Want more, all charas, stand in one line on same level, nobody is closer or farer which makes it look, how can i say? Flat. Only two persons that actually defy that, are the soldier and the hooded guy on teh right side. Actually this pic would look alot better without the left side which unfortunetlly contains Reptile. Cover it with something and you will see what i mean. He and the pimp looking guy are completely of the place, tehy look like they wait in line for their own crowns ;) You could try and move them more into the viewer's side, like maby that they appear up from their thighs, make them a bit darker and of course bigger becouse of the distance. Get what i mean? they are not important for this picture, important is Kyle and the Priest so they should be the brightest and central figures. Reppy and the pimp can stand in the shadow, closer to the viewer, but not as visible.
the figures themselves. I have a feeling that uou actually drew them all on diffrent sheets and then pasted together without thinking about relations between them. what goes after it? compare priest's and kyle's robes laying on the ground? see anything?while Priest's robe looks quite correct along with it's surrounding,Kyle's looks like beeing hanged on the wall (sorry, i couldn't find better compare to explain), see it? I know that his cape is widely spread on the floor, but becosue of the floor mistake which i told you earlier it looks like i described it. Also the fold shading can have something to do with it... and when we speak about shading... I am forbidding you to use the dodge tool until i say that you can use it. :D It dosen't do you any good, and i mean it. Back to my complainment about figures. It's what i told you long time ago, you have tendency to put hellova lot of details on Reptile, and then forgetting about all the rest of the characters on the pic. See? you did it again ;)and what we get? most attention goes to Reptile since he looks like most interesting thing on this pic. Sure you see the priest in the first place, since he is the brightest and most dynamic person(or more likely his dodged arm), but quickly eyes go over the Kyle's back ignoring him, and then go to Reppy and stay on him. moving farer... guard on the right side looks totally of the place as well. Something between his feets and the floor dosen't quite match. PErspective does it's work and the guard does his, and all together they don't match. Not to mention that guard himself is kinda curved of his own perspective, specially when we look on his arms position and chestplate. It's what i used to call a "rubber armour", and it's most common in games, when guy turns with his torso and metal armour seems to be stretching on his body. Take a closer look and you will see what i mean ;) a little bit hard to explain. Not to mention that this is a crowning ceremony, imporatnt thing and guy looks like he is waiting in line to use the toilet. see? like he has no respect for all the situation. Again I hate to say it, but you are not thinking over your pics, it's what i always tell you. Now my favourite part, the hooded guy, he looks exactlly what i told you, like cutted from other pic and pasted all together with the rest. Becouse of those black shadows, he makes a "hole" in everything, and that's not good, if you already decide to use so deep shadows then you must use them somewhere else too, like for example in the backround then he would mistically melt in them and wouldn't stand out so much. OR make his black shadows lighter to match with strenght to other darkest place on the pic, which i guess is the left upper corner. Either way guy stays as mysticall as he is, and won't draw any attention, and the pic itself would breathe better without this heavy black hole. The priest... besides of the obvious hand mistake, again(wrrrrr), he looks quite good, just maby his feets look like he was taken from the egyptian fresque ;) hard to determine which one is which. Besides of that he actually stands out. Poor Kyle, stays absolutelly forgotten on this piccy, and besides of what i already pinpointed, look at his leg and the steps, he is not kneeling in front of the steps but on the side of them, see? You pasted him over there and steps now look like beeing painted on the wall, which is not there... from other way, if his relation with steps would be like you showed, then he should be having his left knee on the step or inside the step. see? he is "invading" them. okies, Reppy and the pimp guy. I told you already what i think of them but there is also other detail. Their relation. Guy looks like he is standing in some distance behind reptile, but... check out how their feets relate... they are on same level, which suggests that pimp and Reptile stand in one line and in effect, he has Reppy's tail between his calfs, and i guess taht was not what you wnated to get. Not to mention that he is completely of the palce and we don't know what he is actually doing over there, besides of looking bored. If you wanted to make a crowd of celebrities to fill the space, then you should draw them more and palce them in the background. That's it.
Pic is dull, i hate to say it but it's really boring. Notting actually happens here. We see a couple of characters, from which we only know two of them, rest is just some random people who bring notting into the pic, they don't interact with anything. I guess you wanted to make a celebrity pic, which describes and important moment, but actually it looks like... some gathering of the characters pasted together from few diffrent stories that are completely not related. There ^^;
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
What I am finally beginning to see myself.... the figures are all standing on completely different "layers"! :O Crap!!! :P Dammit, yes... this makes them appearing even more "unrelated". Next time, I should draw a horizontal line between their bodies, in order to connect them AND to make sure, that they are all on the same level. -.-
You see... sometimes, I need just people like you to OPEN my eyes.
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Herisheft Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Again, you are not listening a word what i am talking to you. I said, that it is bad that they stay in one line, on same level. told you that? I did///"all charas, stand in one line on same level, nobody is closer or farer which makes it look, how can i say? Flat." <---my words...
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2009
Aw, you're refererring to the problem about this "profile shot"... and all the characters "standing in line".

Unfortunately, I WANTED them to be in one line... I WANTED them to be in this "widescreen profile shot". :( But sadly, this has caused the "flat" effect in perspective, which you're talking about.
Surely, you would have done it another way... but I did this view intentionally - with all the "bad side effects", I can finally see now (and try to avoid in the future).
Believe me, I read it all many times.
And I'll take care next time! Thanks a lot, really. :) It really opened my eyes on this problem.
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Herisheft Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand when you are obserwing them from the very level of the floor, then they really have right to stand in one line :D but in such situation... you manged to get the effect of... flatness.
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AnimeFreak814 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Looks great ^^
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
Thank you!!! :)
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AnimeFreak814 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
Ur welcome ^^
I love ur work, I faved alot of ur stuff :D

So basically, Im a fan ^^
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artographer-513 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Another excellent picture. :) I like how you put every detail on the characters. Although it would look a lot better if you put some decorations on the bare walls... but that's just me. :O After all, you are an expert. :faint:
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
That's an old, honourable temple. :P No decor needed, hehehehe. But to be perfectly honest... I was too lazy, to add curtains or anything else now. :D
And it would've spoiled it, I think. ^..^
Thanks for the comment.
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VaelDragon Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great work, interesting how you used many life references for this :)
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Well, I had to use many references... because I wanted this to be "good" and most believable. ;) Drawing humans is not so hard for me, but still... if you're using real models or good references, the results are always better. I still have problems with poses... so, I used some help! :D
THANK YOU!!!
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VaelDragon Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hehe of course and your welcome :)
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RaXt0r Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
aaah, so siehts also aus, das große ding! :lol:
eine epische krönungsszene

man sieht auf jedn fall dass da eine menge arbeit und mühe reingeflossen ist, kein zweifel! ein tolles ding.

ich hoff du hast auch nix gegen ein bisschen kritik? ^^°
was mir vor allem auffällt is dass zwar die perspektive der fenster im hintergrund andeuten, dass der raum nach hinten verläuft, der boden auf dem Reptile und Caleb stehn aber zu diesem nicht parallel ist. Das stört das ganz ein bisschen und nimmt ihm die tiefe.
Vielleicht war folgendes eh beabsichtigt aber ich hab mir gedacht dass der thronsaal verflixt leer ist. Ich hätt evtl noch ein paar detaillose menschensilhouetten in den hintergrund gestellt um ihn etwas mehr zu füllen. Aber wie gesagt, vielleicht wolltest dus nicht anders.

um wieder aufs positive zurückzukommen; ein echt nettes detail ist die homage an Albrecht Dürer. ich glaub mich an das originalbild erinnern zu können =D
ansonsten, farben und figuren in gewohnter qualität! =)
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Hallo, und danke für den Kommentar UND die ehrliche, gute Kritik.
Ich gebe zu, die Perspektive hapert etwas. Der Raum ist aber nicht quadratisch, sondern wie ein leichtes Pentagramm (eher ein Fünfeck) geformt. Dieser Tempel hat nämlich 5 Ausläufer. Dumm nur, dass in der Mitte des Tempels dieser ganz gerade Weg ist, auf dem die Zeremonie stattfindet. :P Aber wie gesagt... die Biegung hätte weniger ODER extremer sein müssen, da hast du recht.

Dies ist auch nicht der Thronsaal, sondern der Tempel. Es ist die inoffizielle Krönung... also, "standesamtlich", verstehst du? :D
Eine echt große Feier - wo alle Leute des Landes eingeladen sind - kommt erst noch. :D

Danke, dass du Dürer erkannt hast. :) Ich hab da letztens eine ganze Unterrichtsreiche zu gemacht... darum kam ich auf diesen Soldaten.

Freut mich, dass es dir gefällt. Nun werde ich auch DEIN neues Bild unter die Lupe nehmen! :hug:
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lazardo Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"a mysterious man in dark robes,"
DUN DUN DUUUNNNNNNN

A plotter, perhaps?
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
Who knows....? :D
Could even be the old king in disguise? *joke*
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SuicideSquad04 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
i have a question, and i know that your sick of hearing my prattling, but shouldnt there be more respect in the picture?
it looks like the gaurd is like, "when is my shift over?"
nevermind it, its vastastious! (word i made up)
za kopiju, friend!!
=D
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
Well, I understand what you mean. But you always see what you want to see. I think, the guard looks not interested in the scene. That is not his purpose, after all! He's not been invited to be happy and celebrate... he just pays attention and cares for security. :)
In the end... face expressions are REALLY hard and I still practise on this. SO, you're not wrong, either. ;)
Thanks for the comment!
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SuicideSquad04 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2009
those expressions are a pain, arent they?
D=<
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
Indeed. ;)
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DVirensis Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
A grand picture. The amount of time you put into it and the result truly show your dedication to your work. Epic, love it. :+fav:
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
I did my best. :) And I've tried to do a "larger" digital work this time... not the usual "A4" size.
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Polar-Dragon Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
I see the resemblance in the Napoleon painting that you mentioned. Awesome work!
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ReptileCynrik Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
Yeah, hehe... thank you very much! :)
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